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Post subject: I want taverns in Skyrim to become ALIVE!

Post Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:00 pm

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The taverns in Morrowind and Oblivion was never really that exciting. I think this is something Bethesda should do something about. When I walk into a tavern, I want it to be alive, not just a few random boring NPC's sitting att a table talking about the weather. I want taverns to be a place where you can find all kinds of interesting peoples. Where you can talk to Mercenaries about battles and job offers. Where you can listen to drunken conversations, and sometimes pick up unique info. I want it to be music, drunken nords hitting on the waitress and getting denied and being kicked out by the owner. I want to see scary looking npc's sitting in dark corners and talk about criminal activities. If you walk into the wrong tavern(owned by evil factions or something) you have to be on guard to avoid trouble, or make trouble. Off couse this is not the case if you are a professional bar brawler ^^ But offcourse there should be nice and cozy taverns too, just make the place alive Bethesda


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Post subject: Re: I want taverns in Skyrim to become ALIVE!

Post Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:38 pm


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Yes! They'd also need rural local pubs for local people where "you can't stand there because that's where Fjorgerd stands and he'll be here in a minute" and the Nordic equivalent of the loud and boring man in the pink corduroy trousers who refers to Mrs Bore as 'the wife' that you seem to get in every single pub in England.

Live music in the pubs would obviously be something I'd love as well - shanty bands in the harbourside towns and classic drinking songs and mournful mountain airs further inland, anyone?


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Post subject: Re: I want taverns in Skyrim to become ALIVE!

Post Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:08 pm


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Imagine walking into a tavern and in the corner there's a Nord barbershop quartet singing "A Less Rude Song" - funny picture.

Well, I agree with you on this matter. The inns and taverns were terribly boring in Oblivion. I loved when I discovered a new one, but I was always disappointed when I walked in to find out that the only guests would be a legion soldier...


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Post subject: Re: I want taverns in Skyrim to become ALIVE!

Post Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:28 pm


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they should add bar fights (with fists only) maybe throw a chair or break it over someone, a big bar brawl, then the guards bust in and start breaking it up. With that my character tends to drink a lot, yep I have a play an alcholic. Where is the blurred vision and delayed responses along with accidental or inccorectly cast spells!

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:36 pm


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yes this is a fantastic idea, one which i have always wanted aswell :)
this way taverns can become a hub for all character types, those relaxing after a hard days work (whilst my character was in the arena he would go to the feedbag everynight to waste his winnings) shady characters sitting in the corner, hiding from authority or spying. there are many possiblilities with it.
also, please don't have everyone stare at you when your close to NPC's. i don't know why but it makes me feel uncomfortable.

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:41 pm


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I can picture it now. You're an old and weather-beaten traveller, stumbling through the snow and despedately looking for a place to stay. When you reach the inn, you are sccosted at the entrance by a young Orc, who claims that you can't enter unless you show that ou have the money to stay there. After refusing and insulting his weight, then eventually giving in and presenting your grubby Septims, he reluctantly lets you in. When you reah the bar and ask for a drink, you realise that the bartender is the father of the Orc outside, and boy is he not happy that you called his son fat. After finally convincing him to let you buy a pint of Hist Rage Ale, you sit down in the corner and get your surroundings. In the corner is a group of Nords shouting around a cockfight. A frustrated old Altmer sits in the corner, sipping on Tamika's and reading Alessia Ottus's latest novel. Eventually, you find yourself stuck against the wall chatting to the world's most boring Bosmer.

Yeah, I could dig that.

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Post subject: Re: I want taverns in Skyrim to become ALIVE!

Post Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:51 pm


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it would be so good for realism to add a bustle feel to the whole of the cities, picture carts going down a cramped, dirty road and people walking past them. the buildings completeley surround the road and there is a tavern at the top of the road, you can hear the chatter from outside. candle light from inside lights the windows with a dull yellow. when you go in there are many people talking and laughing. like the inn of the prancing pony in bree.

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:11 pm


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It would be a bit odd to get drunk, pass out, and find yourself waking up from bed with another man O.o


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:52 am


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Blackfire wrote:

It would be a bit odd to get drunk, pass out, and find yourself waking up from bed with another man O.o

o.O I'd never drink again and enter a state of permanent denial!!

Anyway, in Oblivion I found it unlikely that when you enter the an inn/tavern in the wilderness, the only social gathering point in miles around, you found perhaps two or three NPC's talking about vicious mudcrabs, or simply sitting around a table in silence. The inns definitely needs some re-working in Skyrim. Maybe, with the addition of bar-fights and gambling/betting? The taverns could also become a place for gathering information from slightly intoxicated Nords in quests?


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Post subject: Re: I want taverns in Skyrim to become ALIVE!

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I would also love to see the taverns become either a source of information like mentioned (kind of like in Oblivion when you were walking around and overheard someone talking about the Anvil chapel, for example, it gets added to your discussion topics) or also as a source for quests. If you actually listen, you might overhear someone who needs help with something, or maybe on the darker side, would pay good Septims to have something stolen, or someone killed.

Being able to blend in would be great, too. I know this isn't Assassin's Creed or anything, but I should be able to grab a drink and sit down off to the side, completely inconspicuous. This would allow me to either escape a chase, or eavesdrop/spy on someone quest-related without them noticing.

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Post subject: Re: I want taverns in Skyrim to become ALIVE!

Post Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:57 pm


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I as well have many times hoped Oblivion's inns and taverns were more like this.
And i have high hopes in this regard. Morrowind had all NPCs pretty much standing still everywhere. Oblivion's introduction of the RadiantAI made a huge step by giving every NPC something to do, and even if it looks rather simplistic and monotone after 4 years, i thought it was awesome when it was first released. This feels like a natural next step.

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Post subject: Re: I want taverns in Skyrim to become ALIVE!

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Everything everyone has said is great, I hope all the towns ect are very busy with life, and have lots to do and more to talk about. Some times Oblivion feels a bit quite for a medeavil (srry about spelling) town, I mean there should be more street braws, a hanging or execution, stalls on the streets, more beggers, pickpockets can steal from YOU.

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I want to see people dancing and singing, I want to see them raising their cups and bottles.
People entering the tavern sober then eventually they get drunker and drunker.

There should be on the random occasion that someone gets paranoid and starts a bar fight with one of the other local drunks.

There should be bards singing songs and sharing tales and even in each Tavern, you find a unique NPC who will tell you interesting stories. There should also be mercs for hire and Assassins just sitting alone at the end of the tavern.


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Post subject: Re: I want taverns in Skyrim to become ALIVE!

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Taverns are also the perfect place to add a few minigames to earn (or lose) a few gold pieces. Dice, cards, etc.
Maybe even some more cruel games like tying a goblin to a wall and play darts with knives!
Maybe that's too much though... :shock:

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Post subject: Re: I want taverns in Skyrim to become ALIVE!

Post Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:34 pm


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Yes! I love the idea about NPC's (and the player) getting drunk and singing and stumbling, hugging and fighting. Every tavern should have a guy like the one in Cheydinhal that lost his house. "Cliff racer fllllyyyyyyy soooooooooo hiiiiiiiiiiiiiigghhh". On a somewhat related note, one of the things I always hated in Oblivion was how if you went into your inventory and picked something to eat or drink, you never saw your character eat or drink, but you could see NPCs around you eating, drinking, sleeping, etc. I want more realism in the role playing! When I go into my room at the inn, I want to see animations when I eat dinner, read a book, take off my armor, and lay down to sleep.

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Post subject: Re: I want taverns in Skyrim to become ALIVE!

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I so agree with this idea. The inns and taverns in Oblivion just felt dead. Sure, they would have a few people in them, but they never really felt alive. I want lots of characters crammed inside (what's a tavern without having your personal space violated?), drinking, shouting, interesting NPC conversations, and a creepy old bartender with one eye that knows everything.

Yup. That sounds about right.


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Post subject: Re: I want taverns in Skyrim to become ALIVE!

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Dagoth Ur wrote:

I can't belive that this mod hasn't been mentioned yet. :)

That plus radiant AI and graphics improvement = win!

Whoa! I had never seen that mod, but agreed!
That, but a little bit darker and more crowded == awesome!

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Post subject: Re: I want taverns in Skyrim to become ALIVE!

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I will say that while I have always loved the series the taverns have always been lacking and any idea, especially the ones mentioned here, would be excellent improvements to the game as a whole.

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Hm... might be good if they do it correctly.

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They should be more alive. Here are my ideas:

The people and behivor would depends on the loctation; like in an orderly and rich town like Skingrad, the bars would also be orderly. The people would be freindly, willing to share a tale or too, give you tips on stuff like goblin hunting, and hire you to do stuff like deliveries and reserch. Fights would break out every now and then, the guards would come and break them up, and as long as you don't use weapons and/or magic, you won't get arested or fined. However, in a rough and poor town like Cheydinhal, the people would be rough, telling deeds of there recient "acheivements", give you tips on places to loot, and hire you to steal something or kill someone. Fights would break out left and right, and the gurds would use weapons to break them up.

Bars not in towns would depend on the loctaion. NPC's there would depend on were they are when it gets dark or bad weather. Ones along the main roads would get more guests, but also have more guards that come there. Ones not along the main roads would be void of guard most of the time, but also most NPC's. Shadey people like mercinary's and theives would stay at these taverns, allow you to hire them at any time.


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Post subject: Re: I want taverns in Skyrim to become ALIVE!

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Dagoth Ur wrote:

I can't belive that this mod hasn't been mentioned yet. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUa-71Mp7ko

That plus radiant AI and graphics improvement = win!

That is EXACTLY the kind of thing I want in Skyrim. Lively music, drunken wastrels and dancing. Maybe throw some loose women in for good measure.


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You saw that [Illeagal picture] with the tavern (And the Tavern-Woman)? It looked pretty good...

And that Morrowind video made me want to get it for the PC...


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"We don't serve your kind here!"

"What?"

"You. Wood Elves. This is a vegan bar. You'll have to wait outside."

Teh funnie isn't the Wood Elf's reaction. Teh funnie is having a Nord say that penultimate sentence.


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Dark Spark wrote:

"We don't serve your kind here!"

"What?"

"You. Wood Elves. This is a vegan bar. You'll have to wait outside."

Teh funnie isn't the Wood Elf's reaction. Teh funnie is having a Nord say that penultimate sentence.

Yeah, that's a good idea, to have bars that refuse service to certian races, to add to the racism in the game


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